I.The Cadet's Road
InterviewerSir, how difficult was the move from RIMC1 to NDA2? Did it feel like a continuation, or like the beginning of something new?
VeteranNot at all, not at all. It was simply moving from one place to another. When I joined NDA I went to Alpha Squadron — and the squadron cadet captain, the squadron sergeant major, two or three sergeants, one of the divisional cadet captains, they were all Rimcolians3. So there was nothing new about it. For instance, we had K.S. Rao — you would have heard of him, the famous sailor who went around the world in the sailing vessel Trishna4. He was a sergeant major in Alpha Squadron when I was a cadet there. A little aside: years later, at staff college, we were in the same syndicate, sitting next to each other. Instead of paying attention to the class, we would discuss the lines, the route, the schedule — the problems of circumnavigating the globe. This was 1982. Trishna was being planned in those days, and later, of course, he went around the world on it, along with another Rimcolian, A.K. Singh.
InterviewerBut sir — you were the senior-most at RIMC when you passed out, and then you arrive at NDA suddenly the junior-most again. How did that feel? Was it difficult?
VeteranThat happens throughout your life. It happens throughout your service. You are senior-most in RIMC, you go to NDA junior-most; senior-most in NDA, you go to IMA5 junior-most. I was a battalion cadet adjutant at IMA — the so-called boss of the battalion — and then I went to my regiment and I was the junior-most there. (laughs) So it goes on. I don't think it makes much of a difference.
Contextual Notes and Historical References
- 1 · Rashtriya Indian Military College (RIMC)
- A military preparatory school in Dehradun, founded in 1922, that prepares cadets for entry into the National Defence Academy and a career as commissioned officers.
- 2 · National Defence Academy (NDA)
- The tri-service academy at Khadakwasla, Pune, where cadets of the Army, Navy and Air Force train together before pre-commission training.
- 3 · Rimcolians
- The customary term for alumni of the Rashtriya Indian Military College.
- 4 · Trishna
- An Indian Army ocean-sailing expedition that completed the first Indian circumnavigation of the globe under sail in the mid-1980s, crewed by army officers including Gen. K.S. Rao.
- 5 · Indian Military Academy (IMA)
- The Indian Army's officer-training academy in Dehradun, where cadets complete pre-commission training before being commissioned.
II.The Pull of the Wing
InterviewerWhy Artillery, sir? Was it a fascination from the very beginning, or simply where you ended up?
VeteranNo, no. My father and my brother were Sappers1 — Engineers. So logically I should have followed them. But the basic problem was that I am not technical, and there was no way I was going to get into a technical arm; that was one constraint. The other was that I had a genuine choice, because I passed out among the first twenty at IMA, so I could pick any arm or service I wanted. My father had served, technically, in the Faridkot State Forces2, the old pre-independence princely-state forces; for a year Faridkot had served with the Deccan Horse3 in the 1930s. He was very insistent that I should go to the Deccan Horse — the Armoured Corps. But I didn't want to.
VeteranNow we come to the crux of your question. During one of my terms at NDA — a very hot summer, like this one — we were on the NDA special train from Khadakwasla4 to Delhi, taking cadets on leave. One hot afternoon the train stopped at Jhansi5 station. On the platform I saw a young captain, very smartly turned out, a starched olive-green uniform, with wings on his chest. That set me wondering — who is this army man with a pilot's wings? As a cadet, you are inquisitive. I found out it was something called the Air OP6 — what is today called Army Aviation. In those days it was specific to the Artillery; only Artillery officers became Air OP pilots, to direct artillery fire from the air. So that was one motivation — I said to myself, I must have a wing on my uniform. And second, I had a company commander at IMA who was from the Air OP, a very fine officer. After that there was no doubt about where I wanted to go.
Contextual Notes and Historical References
- 1 · Sappers (Corps of Engineers)
- The Indian Army's engineering arm, responsible for combat engineering, fortifications, bridging and demolition.
- 2 · Faridkot State Forces
- The military forces maintained by the princely state of Faridkot in pre-independence India, later integrated into the Indian Army.
- 3 · Deccan Horse
- An armoured (tank) regiment of the Indian Army's Armoured Corps, with origins in the British Indian cavalry.
- 4 · Khadakwasla
- The location near Pune of the National Defence Academy.
- 5 · Jhansi
- A major railway junction and military cantonment town in Uttar Pradesh, central India.
- 6 · Air OP (Air Observation Post)
- A role in which Artillery officers flew light aircraft to observe and direct artillery fire from the air; the forerunner of the present-day Army Aviation Corps.
III.The Field and the Motherless Place
InterviewerYou've served both in field commands and in planning roles at Army Headquarters. How different were those two kinds of responsibility for you?
VeteranIn the field, your foremost concern is your command — your subordinates, your unit, their well-being, their performance, their training. At whatever level you are, that is your primary concern. But when you go to a staff headquarters as a staff officer, you are devoid of all that. You have no responsibility for any man. Your only concern is to deal with the issues that fall within your charter: planning, analysing, formulating, recommending, presenting to the powers that be. They are two totally different worlds — but in our army everyone transits between the two, and one gets used to it.
VeteranIf I may put it without using a harsh word — a headquarters is a motherless place. (laughs) A unit is a family. I still get calls from men who joined as recruits in 1970, '71, '72. In fact, I had a Subedar1 when I was a second lieutenant in '71. Later we each moved on; he retired and settled in Jammu. About two years ago I got a call from his grandson, who said, "My grandfather is coming to Chandigarh, he wants to meet you." I asked who he was. "Subedar Swarup Singh," he said — "he is coming from Jammu specifically to meet you." After forty-six years he had found out where I was and come all that way. That is the bonding of a unit.
InterviewerYou commanded in places as different as North Sikkim, Rajouri and Nagaland. Does the geography itself shape the nature of military leadership?
VeteranA major role. A major role. In Sikkim I was at ultra-high altitude — my unit was above sixteen thousand feet2, and we spent three years there. The environment was extremely harsh: poor roads, poor living conditions, temperatures dropping to minus twenty-eight, minus thirty in winter, and minus eight even in the daytime. You have to make sure your men do not suffer frostbite, chilblains, or high-altitude pulmonary edema3 — things that are simply not a problem elsewhere. It makes a major impact on how you approach those areas.
Contextual Notes and Historical References
- 1 · Subedar
- A senior rank among the soldier cadre of the infantry and artillery, ranking as a junior commissioned officer in the Indian Army.
- 2 · Ultra-high-altitude posting (North Sikkim)
- Operational deployment above roughly 4,800 metres (about 16,000 feet) along the northern borders — among the most physically demanding postings in any army.
- 3 · High-Altitude Pulmonary Edema (HAPE)
- A potentially fatal build-up of fluid in the lungs caused by rapid ascent to high altitude; a constant operational hazard for troops in the high Himalaya.
IV.Friendships Born of Small Things
InterviewerIs there a particular incident, or a story, that has stayed with you from those postings?
VeteranDo you want a humorous one, or a serious one? … I was a Gun Position Officer1 in 1971. In the artillery, a young second lieutenant serves as Gun Position Officer — there is no other officer in the battery2, you are the only one. We were deployed around November of '71. Near our gun position was a well, and in the evenings we would go in batches to bathe there. As a young officer you have no inhibitions of rank; you are friendly with everyone. I went, put a bucket down the well, and drew up the water. As I set it down, a young Sikh boy came up to me and said, "Gyani3, let me bathe first." So I stepped aside — and he coolly used the bucket I had filled, bathed, and walked off. Everyone else was stunned, wondering what this fellow was up to. He was a new recruit who had joined only that day. He thought I was just one of them. In the evening he came to apologise, and I told him, don't worry. We were friends from then on. I went on to become CO4 of the unit; he became a Subedar. He passed away during COVID. A lifelong friendship, born out of the most innocuous incident.
VeteranThe second was on the very day I joined my unit. At the gate was a sentry — Inayat Ali Khan. He played the fool with me: "Who are you? Where are you going? You can't enter here," and so on — which is normal with any young officer. Later we became good friends. He too became a Subedar while I was CO. He retired and settled in Rajasthan, and would call me every time; his family, his sons, would call me. That is the kind of bond you build out of some trivial beginning.
Contextual Notes and Historical References
- 1 · Gun Position Officer (GPO)
- The officer responsible for the technical control and firing of an artillery battery's guns from the gun position; traditionally a junior officer's appointment.
- 2 · Battery
- The basic firing sub-unit of an artillery regiment, comprising a group of guns and their crews.
- 3 · "Gyani"
- A respectful, informal form of address (literally "learned one"), commonly used in the army for a Sikh soldier or comrade.
- 4 · Commanding Officer (CO)
- The officer in command of a unit such as a regiment or battalion, usually of the rank of Colonel.
V.What Changes, What Endures
InterviewerHaving watched the army across four decades, what changes in the officer culture have concerned you most, and which have given you hope?
VeteranThings change with time; they cannot remain static. The officer cadre today is certainly different from what it was fifty or sixty years ago, when I joined, and there are reasons for it. One is the great expansion of the army — naturally you draw a larger, broader cross-section of society. Second, what society values today shapes the youth: their attitudes, their aspirations, their hopes. And a fundamental change is the reason men join. In my time, my father was in the army, my brother was in the army — it was a foregone conclusion that I would join too. Today's entrant comes with an aspiration — to step into the officer cadre, for social advancement, to rise a grade in his standing in society. But, all said and done, the officer today still performs as the officer always did. His job and his purpose remain unchanged. Other things may change; that has not.
InterviewerWhat would you say to young people considering a career in the services?
VeteranOnly two things. Serve honestly, and serve with honour. Do your job honestly and everything will follow on its own. Handle what is in front of you today well — whatever it is — and the next thing will come automatically. Don't begin by imagining yourself five rungs up the ladder. Do what you are meant to do, and do it honestly — with honour and pride. That, to me, is what it comes down to.
InterviewerIf you could revisit one day from your years in service — not to change it, but simply to live it once more — which would it be?
VeteranI can't put my finger on one single day, but there are landmarks. The day I was commissioned. The day I assumed command of my regiment. Perhaps the day I finally superannuated. Those are the important occasions of a service life.
InterviewerAnd looking back, what gives you the greatest sense of fulfilment today?
VeteranThe command of my regiment. I commanded for three years in high altitude, and before that, as a lieutenant colonel, I commanded another regiment for a year — so a command tenure as CO of four years, which very few people have; most do eighteen months or two years. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I have no regrets.